Posted by kat on August 08, 2004 at 09:43:01:
In Reply to: Worship posted by Rob on August 06, 2004 at 11:44:51:
Yes it does sound strange doesn't it? That should be enough to make you continue to question this poor misguided soul. How does he reconcile this practice to shut-ins or people who HAVE to work on the first day of the week to feed their family. I guess God doesn't really care about them. I have worhsipped God in some of the strangest places, I know he was there and was pleased (but that's my experience)
: Here are some other things he said:
: When Jesus said that he gave Peter the keys to heaven and the power to bind and loose things on earth, and they will be bound or loosed in heaven that means that the disciples can determine what is right and wrong (or what is necessary to get into heaven) and therefore you can only do what you know they have done and nothing more.
*So, I guess I should stop brushing my teeth with toothpaste and forget about indoor plumbing, right?
Which led to the next comment:
: Worship with instruments are forbidden because there are no examples of it in the new testament, and the Mosaic law was done away with so the examples in the old testament cannot be used (I.E david dancing in the street with the various musicians). He said "how do you KNOW God was pleased with David's worship?", because after all it doesn't say and if it doesn't say we need to assume it means it was not acceptable. I figured that God was pleased because he called David a man after his own heart. If that is not a true worhipper (a man after God's own heart), who is? He said that there is a scripture that says that God is not worshipped with anything made from mans hand, as if he needed anything. He used that to say that a guitar is made with mans hand and therefore is unacceptable to bring to worship. If you do, God will not be pleased with your offering of worship. He cited Cain and Able as well saying that God required them to bring the firstfruits of their labor (which really meant a lamb because that was the correct instrument for sacrifice in that day) and since Cain brought fruits and vegetables his offering was rejected. He tied that to my question by saying Cain brought what he thought God wanted and God was displeased and since I'm bringing a guitar to worship I'm bringing what I think is acceptable and will have the same displeasure from God that Cain had.
: I need to reconcile this because there is a real conflict going on in my mind. I love Jesus with all I have. I make mistakes and sometimes on purpose because I'm an idiot. I love music. I cannot see myself not being able to use it to worship God.
: Can we please talk about this.
*I think you already know what to do Rob, this person is misguided and confused and you should be reaching out to him in prayer and love so he is not enslaved by this "malarky" (great Irish word Steve!) Go ahead and worship in spirit and truth and with a thankful heart and all the talent God has gifted you! We need more Guitar players not less!
Read those scriptures again with a prayerful spirit and ask God to settle it for you.
Peace to you friend.
-kat