Posted by giveawayboy on March 20, 2005 at 20:31:38:
In Reply to: Naming as timeless but revealed in time posted by PS on March 20, 2005 at 20:25:17:
: CAV:
: : As for water...you said underwater...to tie with John's theme of symbols, water has always been extremely powerful for me. I find myself drawn to it, and all the greatest things in my life, as well as the trials, intersect water at some point. I even named my kid after water...and naming for me is a L'Englian experience. I guess I was hoping to incorporate that power into him...but then maybe it was already there, I was trying hard just to see the reality of who he is. It was amazing for me to go through a totally surprising Dedication ceremony. I expected a typical evangelical thing and got this blessing and naming that was rife with power. It felt like there were flaming lines being connected and revealed in multiple realms as my son was presented to the world and declared one of the Children of God before all the demons and angels. He is KAIL RAIN! His name is the conquering boldness of water that both nourishes and destroys, causes life to grow and erodes mountains of stone.
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: PS:
: What if...
: The reality was already there, and you were involved in that creative act of naming, outside of this time, long before you experienced the temporal ritual. That is how I have felt on occasion regarding naming. Hard to describe, but it's like when I spoke the words, I heard myself saying them eons ago, invoking an incomprehensible power entrusted by God which eternally ratified my declaration. And at the chosen place in this time in this world, I spoke them.
: Kail Rain is who he is, long before this world, though you were chosen to proclaim his name and reveal his identity as an eternal child of God before all creation. What if Kail Rain has already named you? The temporal correlation to his timeless proclamation of you before all the angels and demons might take place at your funeral. Just a thought...
YES! YES! This is a great path to go down! YES!