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Posted by PS on March 02, 2005 at 22:12:54:

In Reply to: Re: poking the bears posted by marcos on March 02, 2005 at 13:42:22:

: : Well, no one has tried to rouse any beasts in a long time, and in fact I've pretty much given it up myself, but all the nostalgic talk made me think...ah what the heck, so here goes...poke-poke:

: : I think Nationalism is a bad idea that should be abandoned. It seems it hasn't done much in history but lead to contention and suffering by creating a thousand 'us and them' complexes. There are political models that work without it and have been tried. And there was recently a big feature in Time magazine about a culture of international businessmen who exist as world citizens with little regard for nationality. So I say there's little chance for real peace as long as nations exist. It is only xenophobia and selfishness that keeps us from embracing such an idea on a large scale.

: : Any thoughts?

: ~All I can say is I've thought that way for a long time that Nationalism and Patriotism are contributors to war. I do not feel that I should be all faithfull to any one country. actually, there's more I want to say bout this but I got to go for now.

Well I am so depressed about the state of humanity I think I have lost hope. You know, if we could end all nationalist divisions, humans would just create new factions to facilitate and legitimate their hatred. It is more a product of the human condition than any political organization. Can anything really change the human condition? I know God works redemptively in individual lives and calls us to bring that hope to others. Still, right now that seems at best like a tiny island barely afloat in a vast sea of anxiety, misery, and bitterness.

I am depressed...

I have never been this depressed in my life. I do not know what is happening to me, but it is scary. Maybe it is all this sickness I am fighting now. Maybe it is all the minimalist, reductionist, atheistic scholasticism I am swimming in daily. Whatever it is, it seems like a dark cloud is engulfing me and I can't shake it.

I miss our fellowships. I miss the songs to God. I am just hurting.

I miss the fire. I want to be filled.

I am praying fervently, feverishly, desperately. Pray with me please.

I am still sick. I got prescriptions tonight. Maybe when I am better physically life will look more hopeful.

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Re: More than you wanted to know. kle2 15:06:12 03/03/05 (1)
- Re: More than you wanted to know. PS 18:38:32 03/03/05 (0)
Re: More than you wanted to know. cav 04:59:01 03/03/05 (6)
- Your thoughts -- life to me PS 19:56:43 03/03/05 (5)
  - Steve, this is great...thanks for sharing giveawayboy 03:49:17 03/06/05 (0)
  - Your teachings -- life to me Ryan 22:22:37 03/03/05 (1)
    - Re: Your teachings -- life to me PS 00:07:29 03/04/05 (0)
  - Re: Your thoughts -- life to me cav 21:25:31 03/03/05 (1)
    - Re: Your thoughts -- life to me PS 00:21:03 03/04/05 (0)
Re: More than you wanted to know. marcos 23:01:58 03/02/05 (1)
- first depression, then nationalism... giveawayboy 03:27:50 03/06/05 (0)

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: : : Well, no one has tried to rouse any beasts in a long time, and in fact I've pretty much given it up myself, but all the nostalgic talk made me think...ah what the heck, so here goes...poke-poke: : : : I think Nationalism is a bad idea that should be abandoned. It seems it hasn't done much in history but lead to contention and suffering by creating a thousand 'us and them' complexes. There are political models that work without it and have been tried. And there was recently a big feature in Time magazine about a culture of international businessmen who exist as world citizens with little regard for nationality. So I say there's little chance for real peace as long as nations exist. It is only xenophobia and selfishness that keeps us from embracing such an idea on a large scale. : : : Any thoughts? : : ~All I can say is I've thought that way for a long time that Nationalism and Patriotism are contributors to war. I do not feel that I should be all faithfull to any one country. actually, there's more I want to say bout this but I got to go for now. : Well I am so depressed about the state of humanity I think I have lost hope. You know, if we could end all nationalist divisions, humans would just create new factions to facilitate and legitimate their hatred. It is more a product of the human condition than any political organization. Can anything really change the human condition? I know God works redemptively in individual lives and calls us to bring that hope to others. Still, right now that seems at best like a tiny island barely afloat in a vast sea of anxiety, misery, and bitterness. : I am depressed... : I have never been this depressed in my life. I do not know what is happening to me, but it is scary. Maybe it is all this sickness I am fighting now. Maybe it is all the minimalist, reductionist, atheistic scholasticism I am swimming in daily. Whatever it is, it seems like a dark cloud is engulfing me and I can't shake it. : I miss our fellowships. I miss the songs to God. I am just hurting. : I miss the fire. I want to be filled. : I am praying fervently, feverishly, desperately. Pray with me please. : I am still sick. I got prescriptions tonight. Maybe when I am better physically life will look more hopeful.

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